PIERRE  DORION II

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Father & Mother

 

Pierre2 Dorion I  was born 1740 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada1, and died 23 Jul 1810 in Petite Rocher, below St. Louis, MO1.  He married Holy Rainbow2 1780 in Glasgow, Scott, IL2.  She was born 1756 in Glasgow, Scott, IL2.

 

Notes for Pierre Dorion I:

Pierre Dorien I: 1740 - 1810            

 

        He was probably the same Pierre born the Jean-Marie Dorion & Marie-Therese LeNormand, born in Quebec City.  He was married to a woman of the Yankton tribe (a Pierre Dorion married "Holy Rainbow" on the Lower Illinois River in 1780).

        He was apparently living among his wife's tribe from 1785 to 1805 according to one reference and 1773 to 1807 from another source (another source has him settling along the James River in South Dakota in 1775).  In 1780 he had corresponded with George Roger Clark, who had organized and led the American military take-over of wilderness communities east of the Mississippi River the year before.  In 1781 he was trading along the Mississippi & Des Moines Rivers.  In July of 1804, Pierre joined the Lewis and Clark expedition, hired as an interpreter, but before the expedition left their wintering site in the spring of 1805  Pierre was sent back to St. Louis with chiefs of the Yankton, Omaha, Oto & Missouri tribes.  In 1806, Pierre was commissioned by the U.S. War Department, as sub-agent on the Missouri and western tributaries of the Upper Mississippi River.  He apparently died on 23 July 1810 at Petite Rocher, below St. Louis.

leonard.dorion .dorion@sympatico.ca    (deceased 2003)

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More About Pierre Dorion and Holy Rainbow:

Maä: 1780, Glasgow, Scott, IL2

       

Children of Pierre Dorion and Holy Rainbow are:

+      2                 i.               Pierre3 Dorion II, born 1780 in Yankton, Dakotas; died 10 Jan 1814 in Bank of Boise River, nr Caldwell, ID.

        3                ii.               Paul Dorion3, born 1781 in IL.  He married Zeah White Cloud4.

+      4               iii.               Louis Dorion, born 1782 in IL; died 24 Apr 1890.

        5               iv.               Charles Martin Dorion, born 1783.

        6                v.               Antoine Dorion, born 1785 in IL4.

        7               vi.               Thomas Dorion, born 1787 in IL4.

        8              vii.               Perche 'Perechie' Dorion4, born 1789 in IL4.

        9             viii.               Mary Marie Dorion, born 1791 in Nemaha Terr, MO4.

        10              ix.               Jean Baptiste Dorion, born 17954.

        11               x.               Ellen Dorion4, born 1796.  She married Charles Tackett4.

        12              xi.               Margret xDorion5, born 1800 in Nemaha Terr, MO6.  She married Louis xDesnoyers6 Abt. 1829 in St Charles, , MO6.

        13             xii.               Co-Man-Na Dorion, born 1807 in Nemaha Terr, MO6.

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        Pierre3 Dorion II (Pierre2, Jean-Marie1) was born 1780 in Yankton, Dakotas, and died 10 Jan 1814 in Bank of Boise River, nr Caldwell, ID6.  He married Marie Laguisvoise 'Dorion' 10 Jan 1806.  She was born 1786 in St Louis Terr, MO7, and died 05 Sep 1850 in St Louis, Marion, OR.

 

Notes for Pierre Dorion II:

Pierre Dorion, who was part of the Hunt party expedition to Astoria, was killed in the aftermath of the Reed party massacre in 1814.  This is from Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest, St. Louis - Volumes 1 & 2, Gervias, Brooks.

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Pierre Dorion II: 1780/82 - 1814

        He was the son of Pierre Dorion I and a Yankton mother, born in a Yankton village in today's Dakotas.  He married Marie Aloe Laguivoise (1786 - 1850) also known by Marie Aloe Dorion Venier Toupin.

        In June of 1839 he joined a party at Ft. Pierre on the Missouri, consisting of Joseph Nicollet, John Fremont, Charles Geyer, William Dickson, Louison Freniere, Etienne Provost, Jacques Fournaise, Francois Latulipe, Joseph Chartran, Louis Zindel, William May, and several others not mentioned, on their way north to Devil's Lake then reaching Lac qui Parle (at Joseph Renville's fort) on August 25th - - -joining the party was Pierre Dorion, probably a descendant of "old" Pierre Dorion, Sr., the interpreter who had accompanied Lewis and Clark through the Dakota country . . "  ( from Joseph Nicollet's journal of his 1838/39 expeditions for the U.S. government).

 

and their children were:   (These are children that have been documented.  There may be more.)

 

        1.      Paul  (b.1808/09).

2.        Jean Baptiste (b.1812/13).

3.        Unnamed baby, born 29 December 1811, while enroute from St. Louis to Astoria on the Pacific coast.  (This baby died within a month). 

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        On 29 August 1804, Pierre II is with a large band of Yankton, who meet the Lewis & Clark expedition on the Missouri just above the mouth of the James River when he is mentioned in the expedition journal:  ". . . At four o'clock in the afternoon, Sergeant Pryor and his party arrived on the opposite side, attended by five chiefs and about 70 men and boys.  We sent a boat for them and they joined us, as did also Mr. (Pierre) Dorion, son of our interpreter, who happened to be trading with the Sioux at this time..".  In 1809 he served as an interpreter on the Missouri River for Manuel Lisa and in 1811 journeyed west with the land expedition (led by Wilson P. Hunt) of American Fur Co.  Lisa obtained a warrant against Dorion in the spring of 1811 for an unpaid debt that Pierre had incurred as a former employee at Fort Mandan.  In summer of 1813 he left Astoria with a group led by John Reed to Snake River Country and spent the winter of 1813/14 on the Boise River in Idaho.  Gabriel Franchere's journal describes finding Pierre's wife and two boys on the Upper Columbia River while on his return journey to Canada from Astoria.  Regner, John Hubbough, Gilles Leclerc, Francois Landry, J.B. Turcotte, Andre Lachapelle and Pierre De Launay dead) and her escape the previous January.

leonard.dorion@sympatico.ca

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More About Pierre Dorion II:

Confirmation: 18488

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Notes for Marie Laguisvoise 'Dorion':

Other names shown in Family Group Record, IGI are Marie Aoise or L/Aguvoise.

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CATHOLIC CHURCH RECORDS OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST FROM THE MANTLE OF ELIAS

Mission of the Wallamette

B 31-Marie Laguivoise (Madame Dorion), July 19, 1841.  Marie Laguivoise, aged 51 years Born of infidel, native parents of St Louis, U.S.A.  Godfather, Joseph Delard, godmother, Angelique.  F.N.B.

This baptism record would indicate she was born in 1890.

 

Mission of the Wallamette

M 4-Jean Baptiste  Toupin and Marie Laguivoise, July 19, 1841.  Jean Baptiste Toupin, farmer previously of Mackinonge, Canada, and Marie Laguivoise born of native, infidel parents of St. Louis, U.S.A.  Witnesses Joseph Delard, Francois Xavier Laderoute.  Legitimatizing children by two previous marriages.  Known children, Francois, aged 16 years; Marianna, aged 14 years.  Children by previous alliances of Marie Laguivoise, Marguerite Venier, aged 21 years; Jean Baptiste Dorion, aged 25 years.  N.N.B.

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Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest

ST Louis Volumes 1 & 2 Gervais, Brooks

P24 S20-Marie Ayvoise (Iowa) Mme. Toupin- The 6 September, 1850, we undersigned parish priest of St. Louis have buried in the Church of this parish Marie Ayvoise, wife of Jean Toupin, deceased the day before, aged 100 years (sic) Witnesses, Luc Gagnon, Joseph Dellart.  Delorme

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Marie Toupin was dead by the time of the 1850 census, which was taken on the 28 Jan 1851.

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More About Marie Laguisvoise 'Dorion':

Baptism: 19 Jul 1841, St Paul, Marion, OR TERR9

Burial: 06 Sep 1850, St. Louis Church, Marion Co., OR10

Nationality: 4/4 NA (Native American)

 

More About Pierre Dorion and Marie 'Dorion':

Maä: 10 Jan 1806

       

Children of Pierre Dorion and Marie 'Dorion' are:

+      14               i.               Jean Baptiste4 Dorion, born 1807 in Ft St Louis, MO Territory; died Bet. 1849 - 1850 in OR.

+      15              ii.               Paul Dorion, born 1809 in Ft. St.  Louis, MO Territory; died 1889 in Iowa/Sac/Fox Reservation in Doniphan County, Kansas..

        16             iii.               Son Dorion, born 30 Dec 1811 in North Powder River, OR Terr11; died 07 Jan 1812 in North Powder River, OR Terr11.

 

 

Endnotes

 

1.  Leonard Dorion.

2.  1870 census W.T. Wahkiakum Cathlamet Pg 1 Sarah Olsen.

3.  LDS Family Search.

4.  Leonard Dorion.

5.  Sarah Olsen - seadog@casco.net.

6.  Leonard Dorion.

7.  Sarah Olsen - seadog@casco.net.

8.  Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest Vol I.

9.  Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest P28 B31.

10.  Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest Vol I.

11.  Donald Harris-paleriderx@aol.com.

 

Most church records were transcribed and provided by Jennifer Gobin Bailes.